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  • BC24
    Season Ticket Holder
    • Apr 2012
    • 176

    #16
    Originally posted by Dr DNG View Post

    Isn't there a new supervisor of officials?
    New commissioner and new assigners I believe.

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    • 71Malkinmania
      Valued Contributor
      • Nov 2017
      • 1980

      #17
      There is no one to blame except those that have left recently. You can’t fix it overnight. Reality is if 25 guys leave and only 10 join it’s gonna take time… Of the 10 that join you probably keep 5 after 2 years id guess. Where as the 25 who left were long-standing dependable officials.

      It’s gonna take years to correct. Just the reality everywhere now. It’s a National shortage. Games in multiple states cancelling. Just be glad it’s not Varisty stuff….. yet

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      • 71Malkinmania
        Valued Contributor
        • Nov 2017
        • 1980

        #18
        Big thing to remember here is I believe officials are “independent contractors”. They aren’t obligated to work, and or work around here.

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        • barefacts
          The Yoda of Ohio Valley Sports
          • Jun 2011
          • 5376

          #19
          Is it Tom Bechtel ?

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          • MarkJoseph
            Super Moderator
            • Sep 2012
            • 5446

            #20
            lol

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            • kingsnake
              Season Ticket Holder
              • Jun 2011
              • 255

              #21
              Young guys not willing to pay dues. Old out of shape guys can't move. Good ol' boy network in assigning games. Travel times over an hour in some instances. Constant abuse from fans, coaches, kids. Run down on social media. No wonder there is a shortage.

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              • TheTruth21
                Season Ticket Holder
                • Mar 2009
                • 284

                #22
                To wait 3 years to officiate average basketball is insane. Have the new refs work a few summer leagues and you'll see who's ready. No reason a year 1 official can't officiate Bridgeport vs Frontier. I've seen better basketball in the streets of Mingo Junction.

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                • 71Malkinmania
                  Valued Contributor
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 1980

                  #23
                  Originally posted by TheTruth21 View Post
                  To wait 3 years to officiate average basketball is insane. Have the new refs work a few summer leagues and you'll see who's ready. No reason a year 1 official can't officiate Bridgeport vs Frontier. I've seen better basketball in the streets of Mingo Junction.
                  Guys need to be vetted. It sure isn’t possible simply from some summer league stuff, which isn’t even real basketball for the most part.

                  I have 1 playing. I don’t want some random guys being thrown out there not ready . As with anything you can have 100 guys sign up but right off the bat 70 of them ain’t gonna cut it. Another 15 will quit because they don’t like it. Of the 15 left you may get 6 who are good.

                  The problem with officials isn’t a 1 year, 5 year or even 10 year. It’s about 20 years in the making. Its
                  just hit all at once and in multiple sports.

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                  • MarkJoseph
                    Super Moderator
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 5446

                    #24
                    Originally posted by 71Malkinmania View Post
                    Just be glad it’s not Varisty stuff….. yet
                    Oh, that's coming very soon.

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                    • barefacts
                      The Yoda of Ohio Valley Sports
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 5376

                      #25
                      Originally posted by kingsnake View Post
                      Young guys not willing to pay dues. Old out of shape guys can't move. Good ol' boy network in assigning games. Travel times over an hour in some instances. Constant abuse from fans, coaches, kids. Run down on social media. No wonder there is a shortage.
                      Made no sense to go to 3 officials for highschool basketball anyway. They put the old guy, the out of shape guy, or the fat guy at half court and he just stands there.

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                      • kingsnake
                        Season Ticket Holder
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 255

                        #26
                        Originally posted by barefacts View Post

                        Made no sense to go to 3 officials for highschool basketball anyway. They put the old guy, the out of shape guy, or the fat guy at half court and he just stands there.
                        2 officials on every level except varsity.

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                        • Dr DNG
                          Valued Contributor
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1901

                          #27
                          I think we are already there.
                          .
                          Do we really need 3 for most varsity games other than playoffs?
                          .
                          Would the officiating be that much worse?
                          .

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                          • 71Malkinmania
                            Valued Contributor
                            • Nov 2017
                            • 1980

                            #28
                            Fans cry about calls with 3 refs. How much you think is gonna be missed going back to 2??

                            Look at the nightly debacles in gyms. It’s at events with 2 refs… From middle school to AAU.


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                            • barefacts
                              The Yoda of Ohio Valley Sports
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 5376

                              #29
                              One less to blame with 2 refs. Crowd control.

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                              • Basketballjunkie
                                Season Ticket Holder
                                • Dec 2014
                                • 231

                                #30

                                I don’t have the answer, but I went to a Jr High game the other day where a veteran official could run or even get back to his end of the court. He had his back to the play half the time.

                                I’ve watched enough in recent years to see guys that shouldn’t be officiating at any level.

                                I know someone has to do it, but coaches calling the games themselves would be an improvement much of the time.

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