Buckeye Local Football - your thoughts?????????????

[Panhandle Randle]

Buckeye Local 7th grade is now 3-0. Sounds like Phil Pest and the VARSITY Panthers should go watch and learn a thing or two...

Not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this comment. IM sure it has to do with scheme at the varsity level and more to do with a lack of talent. Maybe spells good news for BL for once, knowing there is some talent coming up.

[sonofsam]

Not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this comment. IM sure it has to do with scheme at the varsity level and more to do with a lack of talent. Maybe spells good news for BL for once, knowing there is some talent coming up.

I am not trying to accomplish anything more than hopefully get BL competitive again. I have a good friend whose son is on that 7th grade team. They are fighting which is something BL's Varsity team needs to do. As stated before, a lot of kids are leaving the school for other opportunities and a chance to win. I believe in sticking with your roots and taking pride in that. It seems the 7th grade is doing just that despite coaching, the future, and BL. They are just going out and winning. I think the Varsity could learn something from that.

[iwishiwasdougbutts]

A good HC and assistant coaches will get the most out of their athletes and develop talent. As far as the athletes, they are just kids who need taught skills, work ethic, confidence, motivation, etc. You cannot blame the kids, it is up to the adults as coaches. Talent can be either natural or learned (i.e. from good coaches/teachers). Sounds like their school board needs to wake up if this has been going on since 2010. Just my 2c

So the kids have nothing to do with it...in high school football..talent is huge...If Pete carroll was the coach they would still be 0-2

[Jake]

I am not trying to accomplish anything more than hopefully get BL competitive again. I have a good friend whose son is on that 7th grade team. They are fighting which is something BL's Varsity team needs to do. As stated before, a lot of kids are leaving the school for other opportunities and a chance to win. I believe in sticking with your roots and taking pride in that. It seems the 7th grade is doing just that despite coaching, the future, and BL. They are just going out and winning. I think the Varsity could learn something from that.

I think we get caught up in the younger kids football success hopping that it can lead to future team success, sometimes it does, mostly it doesn't, unless it's Steubenville. I've seen the BL 7th graders this year and in the past as Young Buckeyes. Not sure who they are playing to be 3-0 but the Bellaire 7th beat them in a scrimmage and the Bellaire 7th is very bad, having Shadyside put 42 on the board against them and losing this past week 36-0. Although they did beat Barnesville 36-14 that was on a 4th grade level.

If I remember correctly, the Bellaire team that made it to the Ohio Finals undefeated in 96 only won one game as freshmen.

[Rookie]

Buckeye Local 7th grade is now 3-0. Sounds like Phil Pest and the VARSITY Panthers should go watch and learn a thing or two...

We have heard this before - i believe one is the current soph/junior class years ago, but when they hit high school - they have no talent. What does that tell you??????

[Rookie]

So the kids have nothing to do with it...in high school football..talent is huge...If Pete carroll was the coach they would still be 0-2

Yep - go back through prior post of some of the talent people were excited about coming up - - don't deflect the issue from the kids' potential and coaching. So sad.

[football7]

75% of Jr High success comes from which team has the most kids (more depth) and more importantly which teams has the most kids who have hit puberty and grew and developed.

[Rookie]

75% of Jr High success comes from which team has the most kids (more depth) and more importantly which teams has the most kids who have hit puberty and grew and developed.

You are correct. But all the kids' talent go away when they get to the JV/Varsity level?

[iwishiwasdougbutts]

You are correct. But all the kids' talent go away when they get to the JV/Varsity level?

Or maybe the other kids are putting more time in...weightroom. .camps...
The talent doesn't go away....others just catch up

[sonofsam]

Or maybe the other kids are putting more time in...weightroom. .camps...
The talent doesn't go away....others just catch up

Rep "Doug" lol

[BLpanther]

The 2014 class won the bmac as 8th graders, had about 26 kids out, and one of their backs had over 800 yards rushing I believe. They had two coaches, mike mckeegan and Tom figurski who believed in them and who the kids believed in.
They weren't huge or overly mature and with the receivers that the class before them had they looked to continue the 2010 success.
Move forward one year and there is a new coach. Pob retired and the fire and energy left. Any show of emotion or fight was discouraged. Half of the linemen didn't go out, one of the starting backs and imo a qb that would have been as good as nearly anyone didn't play. Why? Some talented freshmen and none lettered, and the few that were close were held out of the last game, a 50-6 blowout win. Why? None of the remaining talented backs saw ANY action on varsity in the backfield and were jacked around between jv and freshman. One of the backs then transferred to Edison and I think started as a soph. Fast forward to their senior year, 7 players out, four changes in offense, no using of any of the backs for more than six carries per game and they didn't use a qb they should have which would have given them more athletes in the backfield And yes Westinghouse walloped them, the main reason is that Westinghouse was undisciplined, and was physical, and since bl was told for four years to be passive they were scared, which is the most disappointing part of it. Bl might not have had the best talent some years, but teams hated to play them because they were so physical.... Just my thoughts.

[chinemback]

Dougbutts, I'm saying kids can be taught and developed by a good coach. Sure having baseline naturally talented kids is huge and gives a coach a headstart. I just don't buy the whole Darwinian abortion theory where somebody says a kid or kids don't have talent so it must be them to blame and have a scapegoat. P.s. Under Urban Meyer they would be 2-0.

[Rookie]

HC and supporters' excuses: young team, injuries, parents, and no talent. I'm not aware of one valley team that does not deal with all of those year in year out but they find ways to be competitive and win some games.

Facts:

2015 - (0-3) - Outscored 120-20 – All scores against 2nd and 3rd teams

Lost to MF 60-7 – mercy rule
Lost to UL 26-7
Lost to Edison 34-6 – mercy rule
Next Game IC - Come Friday - It’s been 2555 days (6 yrs – 11 months) since Buckeye has beat IC.

Team Info: Returning Offensive Players: 11 Returning Defensive Players: 15 Returning Lettermen: 22
Coaching Staff: Current HC, assistants: Anthony Barsch, Chris Heaton, AJ Barsch, Greg Ring Dillon Stickler, and Craig Kornetti.
Current HC Record 27-6; eight assistant coaches lost in 2 years.

2014 – ( 1-9) - Outscored 359-97

Lost to MF 36-0 – mercy rule
Lost to 4-6 UL – 26-23 – ot
Lost to 2-8 Edison – 27-14

Team Info: Returning Offensive Players: 7 Returning Defensive Players: 8 Returning Lettermen: 16
Coaching Staff: Current HC, assistants: Nathan Skrzypek, Caleb Myers, Anthony Barsch, Chris Heaton, and Mike Wilt.

2013 – (1-9) = Outscored 353-102

Lost to 3-7 - UL 6-45
Lost to 4-6 - Edison 26-22
Lost to MF - 43-6

Team Info: Returning Lettermen: 17
Coaching Staff: Current HC, assistants: Nate Skrzypek, Blair Closser, Mason Boyce, Cabel Myers, Chris Heaton, Jason Merryman, Tom Merryman, and Brett Clough.

Mercy ruled 8 out of 13 games since the rule began in 2014
Current Buckeye 8 losing streak 5 games - beat 1-9 EL end of 2014
Prior Buckeye 8 losing streak 16 games 2012-2014
3-21 against Buckeye 8 opponents since 2013
7-35 against Buckeye 8 opponents since 2010
Last win against team with winning record 2009 – diff coach

[ProudPanther04]

Do you truly not have anything better to do than to sit around look up stats to bash Buckeye Local's coaching staff and players? I especially find in hilarious that you even counted the days since buckeye local beat Indian creek (just to save you time for your next post, they lost to IC 4 years in a row prior to 2008. Please count those days and grace us with your intel)


And also, what is your point about loss of coaching staff? You always throw half truths and no full stories. Which brings me to wonder why you left off 2012, 4-6 record. Not the greatest but you could give some credit.


Skryzpek - Higher paying coaching job + in fear of rumors that the board was not going to hire him back
Merryman - Higher paying coaching job
Myers - Relocated
Boyce - Career Change
Closser - Career Change
Clough - Higher paying coaching job
T. Merryman - not sure but think he only helped bc of his son Jason - - still attends Buckeye's games
Wilt - ??


Besides the facts above, these assistant coaches are in constant fear of losing their jobs every year bc BL has a reputation of going thru coaches like wildfire. I'm almost positive you should know.

Your constant negativity and bashing is not helping. Why don't you try becoming part of the solution and stop being part of the problem. Apply with BL for Head Coach and YOU deal with all the issues in the football program that start from the top (Board members on down) and let us judge you. You would probably have a good shot at getting it. No Coach in the Valley would come to BL and put up with the harassment Board Members put their Coaches thru.

[Rookie]

Do you truly not have anything better to do than to sit around look up stats to bash Buckeye Local's coaching staff and players? I especially find in hilarious that you even counted the days since buckeye local beat Indian creek (just to save you time for your next post, they lost to IC 4 years in a row prior to 2008. Please count those days and grace us with your intel)


And also, what is your point about loss of coaching staff? You always throw half truths and no full stories. Which brings me to wonder why you left off 2012, 4-6 record. Not the greatest but you could give some credit.


Skryzpek - Higher paying coaching job + in fear of rumors that the board was not going to hire him back
Merryman - Higher paying coaching job
Myers - Relocated
Boyce - Career Change
Closser - Career Change
Clough - Higher paying coaching job
T. Merryman - not sure but think he only helped bc of his son Jason - - still attends Buckeye's games
Wilt - ??


Besides the facts above, these assistant coaches are in constant fear of losing their jobs every year bc BL has a reputation of going thru coaches like wildfire. I'm almost positive you should know.

Your constant negativity and bashing is not helping. Why don't you try becoming part of the solution and stop being part of the problem. Apply with BL for Head Coach and YOU deal with all the issues in the football program that start from the top (Board members on down) and let us judge you. You would probably have a good shot at getting it. No Coach in the Valley would come to BL and put up with the harassment Board Members put their Coaches thru.

Haha Captain Obvious!!! How many screen names do you have? I'm sticking up for the kids they deserve better. You were wrong so came back for more with all your spins and excuses to try to justify failure. Yes I counted on my fingers how may days its been since buckeye beat ic idiot. The way u flip flop is amusing.