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  • uvahoos
    All Ohio Valley
    • Nov 2009
    • 629
    #1

    OVAC- What's the Point?

    There is a thread on football which says the OVAC is down to 48 schools, as most of us believe the OVAC is not a real conference at all in the traditional sense that schools play each other and win a real conference championship. The Buckeye 8 and Two Rivers Conference at least seem to be on the right track as far as conferences go. OVAC is just a conglomeration of schools.

    Here's how well the OVAC is run:

    Football- anyone like how this conference champion is "chosen"
    Cross Country- I assume they can get a distance race correct
    Volleyball-
    Golf- any reason why not just a big school/ small school champion?
    Soccer- nice 8 team tournament but the qualifying requirements leave something to be desired

    Basketball- Because of the division split-ups, the best teams don't play each other- no real conference champions- an 8 or 16 team- big/small tournament would be more exciting but will never happen
    Swimming-
    Wrestling- seems like mostly positive comments about this tournament


    Softball & Baseball- I assume this works the same as basketball- any reason why this can't be an 8 team tournament ( I assume it is not)
    Track- I have heard very few people say positive things about this meet.
    Tennis - Seems like this is done well
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  • Dr DNG
    Valued Contributor
    • Aug 2008
    • 1907
    #2
    Golf.... Only two clases would make it a
    tournament so large it would be very
    difficult to conduct. Certainly do not
    want a repeat of the WV state tourney
    environment where it closes an entire
    golf course for two days and it takes
    players up to 7 hours to complete
    their round. Its not golf, its survival
    of the fittest.

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    • uvahoos
      All Ohio Valley
      • Nov 2009
      • 629
      #3
      Originally posted by Dr DNG View Post
      Golf.... Only two clases would make it a
      tournament so large it would be very
      difficult to conduct. Certainly do not
      want a repeat of the WV state tourney
      environment where it closes an entire
      golf course for two days and it takes
      players up to 7 hours to complete
      their round. Its not golf, its survival
      of the fittest.
      Makes sense
      All posts are for entertainment purposes ONLY. Any reference to any team or person, real, fictional or imagined, may be intentional, wholly unintentional or accidental. Any school, team or coach who intends to rely on any information in any post for actual facts is delusional and should not waste his or her time reading these posts. Any offense taken by any post may be justified, unjustified or a figment of the offended person's imagination.

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      • Lakeshoredr
        All Ohio Valley
        • Jul 2008
        • 674
        #4
        Eliminate all classes. Most sports could go one separate championship tournament. Seed top 16 for bigger sports like baseball and basketball. Keep XC, track and wrestling the same just eliminate the separate classes. ONE Champ

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        • Dr DNG
          Valued Contributor
          • Aug 2008
          • 1907
          #5
          But 5 classes in golf may be too many.

          Class A without Rosecrans will be a little funny
          since some of the schools in the new Class A
          do not have full golf teams or none at all.

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          • BrianGossett
            Founder of OVATHLETICS.COM
            • Jun 2008
            • 9600
            #6
            I've been saying it since I made this site. The OVAC is not a "conference", if anything, they are a League. I don't understand why there is not a restructure.

            The OVAC could be so strong, and make so much movement if they were open to a free flow of new ideas and concepts that would strengthen the actual vision of why the conference was founded.

            The OVAC needs to bring in some NEW faces/minds that can take it into the year 2012 and beyond!

            OVAL - Ohio Valley Athletic League

            Get rid of classes, and create REAL conferences within the League.

            The (New) Buckeye 8
            Martins Ferry
            St. Clairsville
            Buckeye Local
            Harrison Central
            Indian Creek
            Steubenville Big Red
            East Liverpool
            Cambridge

            The River Conference
            Shadyside
            Bellaire
            Bridgeport
            Magnolia
            River
            Steubenville Central
            Weirton Madonna
            St. Johns

            The Mountaineer Conference
            Wheeling Park
            John Marshall
            Brooke
            Morgantown
            University
            Parkersburgh South

            The Tri-County Conference
            Barnesville
            Toronto
            Meadowbrook
            Edison
            Monroe Central
            Caldwell
            Buckeye Trail
            Union Local

            The Interstate Conference
            Tyler Consolidated
            Bishop Donahue
            Weirton
            Linsly
            Wheeling Central
            Beallsville
            Wellsville
            Oak Glen

            There are still a couple schools left... but this is a better start.

            You have to schedule 6 conference games, leaving each school with 4 open dates. Every year, the Conference winners for the League get first dips on HOME scheduling.
            "Failure gave me Strength... Pain was my Motivation" - Michael Jordan


            "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle... victorious." - Vince Lombardi (1913-1970)

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            • User Removed
              Removed
              • Jun 2008
              • 4216
              #7
              Originally posted by OVATHLETICS.COM View Post
              I've been saying it since I made this site. The OVAC is not a "conference", if anything, they are a League. I don't understand why there is not a restructure.

              The OVAC could be so strong, and make so much movement if they were open to a free flow of new ideas and concepts that would strengthen the actual vision of why the conference was founded.

              The OVAC needs to bring in some NEW faces/minds that can take it into the year 2012 and beyond!

              OVAL - Ohio Valley Athletic League

              Get rid of classes, and create REAL conferences within the League.

              The (New) Buckeye 8
              Martins Ferry
              St. Clairsville
              Buckeye Local
              Harrison Central
              Indian Creek
              Steubenville Big Red
              East Liverpool
              Cambridge

              The River Conference
              Shadyside
              Bellaire
              Bridgeport
              Magnolia
              River
              Steubenville Central
              Weirton Madonna
              St. Johns

              The Mountaineer Conference
              Wheeling Park
              John Marshall
              Brooke
              Morgantown
              University
              Parkersburgh South

              The Tri-County Conference
              Barnesville
              Toronto
              Meadowbrook
              Edison
              Monroe Central
              Caldwell
              Buckeye Trail
              Union Local

              The Interstate Conference
              Tyler Consolidated
              Bishop Donahue
              Weirton
              Linsly
              Wheeling Central
              Beallsville
              Wellsville
              Oak Glen

              There are still a couple schools left... but this is a better start.

              You have to schedule 6 conference games, leaving each school with 4 open dates. Every year, the Conference winners for the League get first dips on HOME scheduling.
              I like it!

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              • MountaineerDawg
                Valued Contributor
                • Aug 2008
                • 1932
                #8
                Switch Oak Glen and Madonna, and Weir and Tyler should be in a conference with other AA schools for them to have a good WV playoff point schedule.
                "Some of it magic, some of it tragic, but I had a good life all the way." J. Buffett

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                • RES874
                  Ohio Valley Sports Expert
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2811
                  #9
                  In the tri-county conference,Toronto would have tons of travel miles along with Beallsville from the Interstate conference.You may want to move them two around.

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                  • Cannoli137
                    The Yoda of Ohio Valley Sports
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 5572
                    #10
                    It's a shame that some school would never go for it. I love the New Buckeye 8 & the Mountaineer Conf. for the big schools. You could put Zanesville in the Mountaineer & maybe we could see a Big Red-Parkersburgh South meeting some how.

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                    • Cannoli137
                      The Yoda of Ohio Valley Sports
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 5572
                      #11
                      I know people are always saying that this school won't play this school because of this reason and so on, but if the schools wants to play each other bad enough then they will make it happen IMO.

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                      • outdoorsman
                        Valued Contributor
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1319
                        #12
                        Why would edison be in such a low class ?

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                        • oubobcats
                          Cheerleader
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 78
                          #13
                          In the OVAC wrestling tournament, you already have an overall champion but the 1A and 2A schools for example need to keep their class championship as well. It is very difficult for the smaller schools to win any championship when all the schools compete together. It keeps the OVAC wrestling tourney interesting all the way up to the end of Saturday's championship matches when you have the class champions. The reason why you have 5 classifications now is to promote fairness and competition with schools close to their own size.

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                          • algernonsidney
                            OV Football Expert
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 4407
                            #14
                            Originally posted by oubobcats View Post
                            In the OVAC wrestling tournament, you already have an overall champion but the 1A and 2A schools for example need to keep their class championship as well. It is very difficult for the smaller schools to win any championship when all the schools compete together. It keeps the OVAC wrestling tourney interesting all the way up to the end of Saturday's championship matches when you have the class champions. The reason why you have 5 classifications now is to promote fairness and competition with schools close to their own size.
                            One of the best things about it is that everybody wrestles everybody. You have true individual champions that way.

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                            • algernonsidney
                              OV Football Expert
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 4407
                              #15
                              Originally posted by uvahoos View Post
                              Swimming-
                              It's all done in one meet. This works out well.

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