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  • hounds
    Valued Contributor
    • May 2009
    • 1030

    #61
    Originally posted by ProudPanther04 View Post
    What system?? Agree 100%.

    In order to have a system, there must be support from the top down. This means BOE members need to redirect parents who call to complain to the PROPER chain of command...... Coach - Athletic Director - Principal - Superintendent. Board members need to stop taking these calls. The first question out of their mouth should be "Have you talked to the head coach regarding this matter" and if they have not the BOE members should stop the conversation immediately. Instead they listen, talk amongst themselves in their private little meetings and don't even have the nerve to go to the Coaches and let them explain their point of view. 95% of the time coaches are not even aware there is a problem. Do the BOE members go to practices and evaluate the players performance every day? Day after day? Think not.

    Further more..... How about this..... Ask the parent if little Johnnie has talked to coach about the complaint himself like a big boy. Wish I had a quarter for every time I hear a parent say, "Johnnie won't say anything (or doesn't want me to say anything) because he likes playing the sport". (Ah-hmm) so.... Johnnie likes it and has no problem with it, it is you with the problem. Heck, one of the BOE members himself is famous for the letter he wrote to the coaches and AD stating that his son "begged him not to say anything". (Not to mention that this same board member called all the football coaches "bums" in this same letter.) - - Now that's what I call support???

    This district needs BOE members that support their staff, trust the recommendations of their Superintendent (like all other BOEs), and worry more about EDUCATION and leave coaching issues up to the Coaches. And for God's sake, if they feel the coach is doing something wrong, go to him (immediately) so he may correct it or defend it. Then maybe somebody in their right mind would want to come from outside and coach for Buckeye. I commend all of Buckeye's Coaches for even wanting to coach there. Seems hardly worth the aggravation to me.

    Yeah, what system?
    That's an excellent point.....repped

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    • ProudPanther04
      JV Squad
      • Jan 2015
      • 23

      #62
      Originally posted by hounds View Post
      I think that anyone that would want to build a program would be interested in the position. Whomever is chosen needs to be left alone to do what needs done. It's going to be a 3-4 year process and won't happen overnight. Will also involve a lot of time, so it might be a good idea for a teaching position to open for this particular person. If that can happen, I'm sure some quality candidates will look for a position like this. That is if the current coach decides to retire.
      Current coach has been there 3 years and like you said, it takes time. Due to injuries and low counts this past season a lot of young players were able to get some experience on the Varsity level. This was a very rare opportunity. Although the injuries were very unfortunate, I think the experience the younger players received will pay off next season and we will start to see things turn around no matter who the coaches are.

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      • ProudPanther04
        JV Squad
        • Jan 2015
        • 23

        #63
        Originally posted by BudDe View Post
        Bottom line : Anyone that could make a difference needs total control. No interference from PARENTS that run to their favorite board member to straighten out the coaches thinking, No interference from the BOE, and no interference from any internal groups. Without total control no one of caliber will step up and put their name on the program. Having said that it makes you wonder how the present staff wouldve done without interference.
        AMEN!

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        • misssunny
          Valued Contributor
          • Feb 2011
          • 1296

          #64
          how can a school board member be so down on the coaches after all weren't they the ones who hired them in the first place? if a board member did not a particular candidate why did they hire him any way?

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          • BudDe
            Season Ticket Holder
            • Jan 2012
            • 343

            #65
            It's not all the board members. Go to a meeting and you can figure it out pretty quik. You mention Roberts rule of order and the answer is "who's Robert" LOL
            Those where the droids I was looking for.

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            • secretstud96
              TROY FETTY
              • Jul 2008
              • 7395

              #66
              FYI

              1st BOE meeting

              1/8/2014
              Buckeye Local Administration Office - Dillonvale

              Organizational Meeting-6:00
              Regular Meeting-6:30
              Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys.
              Look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death!”
              – Sun Tzu, quotes from the Art of War

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              • Rookie
                Valued Contributor
                • Jun 2010
                • 1388

                #67
                Here is the resume folks - no other school would even consider rehiring. It takes time - you are correct, but there has been absolutely no progress made. Stop with the injuries and young team excuse all schools in the valley have to deal with that but have found ways to be competitive. IMO if things don't change now - they will be lucky to field a team next year.

                2012-2014 - 16 game losing streak in the buckeye 8
                2012-2014 - 2-21 last 23 games
                2012-2014 - 6-24 overall - has not beat a team with a winning record since 2009

                Notable losses:

                2012

                40-0
                48-6
                49-7
                49-6

                2013

                40-0 to 1-8 Pitt Westinghouse
                45-6
                52-6
                43-6

                2014

                36-0 – Mercy mercy me
                41-6 – Mercy mercy me
                61-0 – Mercy mercy me
                41-14 – Mercy mercy me
                54-0 – Mercy mercy me
                42-6 – Mercy mercy me

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                • Rookie
                  Valued Contributor
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 1388

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Big Lebowski
                  Rookie
                  Good luck next year as the New Head Football Coach @ Buckeye Local.
                  HAHA just stating the facts. When you only have 30 plus kids going out something is fundamentally wrong. No one is buying in. Just saying . . . record speaks for itself.

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                  • ProudPanther04
                    JV Squad
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 23

                    #69
                    Originally posted by misssunny View Post
                    how can a school board member be so down on the coaches after all weren't they the ones who hired them in the first place? if a board member did not a particular candidate why did they hire him any way?
                    This particular board member caused trouble for months last year, holding up the rehiring of Coaches only to realize 4 months later he had to abstain from the final vote due to having a child on the football team. He outright lied to other board members regarding some conduct issues about coach pest and once the board members called a special private meeting with coach pest and gave him a chance to defend himself against the lies they came out of the executive meeting and voted him back in as coach. This board member's son is no longer on the Panther football team. His dad, a BL board member, enrolled him in another school. (talk about "speaks volumes")

                    Coach Pest's job was up for voting in the December meeting and it was tabled once again. Should be back on agenda for Thursday's meeting.

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                    • ProudPanther04
                      JV Squad
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 23

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Big Lebowski
                      Rookie
                      Good luck next year as the New Head Football Coach @ Buckeye Local.
                      Wouldn't be surprised if Rookie is a former coach scorned by Buckeye Local........where coaching careers go to die due to lack of support.

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                      • ProudPanther04
                        JV Squad
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 23

                        #71
                        Rookie
                        Where are you from and have you ever been to a Buckeye Local football game? What year and who did they play?

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                        • ProudPanther04
                          JV Squad
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 23

                          #72
                          Originally posted by BudDe View Post
                          It's not all the board members. Go to a meeting and you can figure it out pretty quik. You mention Roberts rule of order and the answer is "who's Robert" LOL
                          BudDe
                          You are so right. Wish more people would attend these meeting to see who the community is voting in to these positions. Not saying they are all bad but just come see for themselves. Would only take one time to open their eyes.

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                          • ProudPanther04
                            JV Squad
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 23

                            #73
                            Rookie

                            Can you please name just one outstanding player from the following schools:

                            St. Clairsville
                            Shadyside
                            Bellaire
                            Edison
                            Indian Creek
                            Martins Ferry

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                            • Rookie
                              Valued Contributor
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 1388

                              #74
                              Originally posted by ProudPanther04 View Post
                              What system?? Agree 100%.

                              In order to have a system, there must be support from the top down. This means BOE members need to redirect parents who call to complain to the PROPER chain of command...... Coach - Athletic Director - Principal - Superintendent. Board members need to stop taking these calls. The first question out of their mouth should be "Have you talked to the head coach regarding this matter" and if they have not the BOE members should stop the conversation immediately. Instead they listen, talk amongst themselves in their private little meetings and don't even have the nerve to go to the Coaches and let them explain their point of view. 95% of the time coaches are not even aware there is a problem. Do the BOE members go to practices and evaluate the players performance every day? Day after day? Think not.

                              Further more..... How about this..... Ask the parent if little Johnnie has talked to coach about the complaint himself like a big boy. Wish I had a quarter for every time I hear a parent say, "Johnnie won't say anything (or doesn't want me to say anything) because he likes playing the sport". (Ah-hmm) so.... Johnnie likes it and has no problem with it, it is you with the problem. Heck, one of the BOE members himself is famous for the letter he wrote to the coaches and AD stating that his son "begged him not to say anything". (Not to mention that this same board member called all the football coaches "bums" in this same letter.) - - Now that's what I call support???

                              This district needs BOE members that support their staff, trust the recommendations of their Superintendent (like all other BOEs), and worry more about EDUCATION and leave coaching issues up to the Coaches. And for God's sake, if they feel the coach is doing something wrong, go to him (immediately) so he may correct it or defend it. Then maybe somebody in their right mind would want to come from outside and coach for Buckeye. I commend all of Buckeye's Coaches for even wanting to coach there. Seems hardly worth the aggravation to me.

                              Yeah, what system?
                              HOW BOUT WIN A GAME AND SELL SOME TICKETS There is no support from anyone

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                              • Rookie
                                Valued Contributor
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 1388

                                #75
                                Originally posted by ProudPanther04 View Post
                                Rookie

                                Can you please name just one outstanding player from the following schools:

                                St. Clairsville
                                Shadyside
                                Bellaire
                                Edison
                                Indian Creek
                                Martins Ferry
                                Yes and they all have or one could have had beat buckeye by 40 even though some of them are a div or 2 or 3 below them.

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