Buckeye Local Football - your thoughts?????????????

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  • CreekLoyal
    Valued Contributor
    • Oct 2010
    • 1180

    #46
    Leave the buckeye 10 since they can't win in it. Start playing some of the bad D5-7 teams until they start winning and ease back into playing teams like creek and St.C.

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    • Jake
      OVATHLETICS.COM 3K CLUB
      • Nov 2010
      • 3569

      #47
      Originally posted by CreekLoyal View Post
      Leave the buckeye 10 since they can't win in it. Start playing some of the bad D5-7 teams until they start winning and ease back into playing teams like creek and St.C.
      That just might be what is needed. Leave the B 10 and schedule down. Kids and Fans want wins. Paden City, Cameron, Beallsville, etc, etc.

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      • AllSports247
        Cheerleader
        • Jan 2014
        • 56

        #48
        There's no need to leave the conference when you're only obligated to play 5 teams, and 3 aren't typically that good. They beat EL last year so probably keep them on the schedule Edison isn't a powerhouse and neither is Beaver. HC is their rival game so it stays and Creek they won't beat for a while but you can't have all easy games. Still leaves you with 5 open dates to schedule anyone! Don't leave the conference, just only schedule the minimum conference games. Start out by swapping out Ferry for Beallsville.

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        • WooWooWoo!
          Season Ticket Holder
          • Mar 2012
          • 178

          #49
          No offense to Beallsville, but I cannot believe the conversation has gotten to the point of scheduling them. Buckeye has played Walsh Jesuit, Upper St. Clair, Wheeling Park, Elyria Catholic, Niles McKinley, & Steubenville in the past, and we survived, protecting our tradition of PHC. I read Rick DeLuca's column online and saw that the loss finally put Buckeye Local at the point where their record was .500 or below. The players shouldn't be on the message board reading posts from anyone, they should be in the film and weight rooms. Coach Pest has been a part of a majority of BL's wins, as well as some state championship teams at Wheeling Central. Everybody loves a winner, but it all starts with the man in the mirror. Circle the wagons and go forward. The ghosts are still on the hill, always watching. Good Luck boys.

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          • ProudPanther04
            JV Squad
            • Jan 2015
            • 23

            #50
            Originally posted by Rookie View Post
            That's no secret why sugar coat it for the adults?
            You know what I'm saying. I'm talking about the boys not adults.

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            • sonofsam
              The Yoda of Ohio Valley Sports
              • Jun 2010
              • 7185

              #51
              Originally posted by ProudPanther04 View Post
              You know what I'm saying. I'm talking about the boys not adults.
              NONE of the player should be on this site. It is a place for those of us who eat, sleep, breathe, and go at it about the old days when it comes to football. Sure it can be used at bulletin board material, but most teams have a rule about being on a site such as this because "boys" shouldn't be here. If you want to help your "boys" then start actually helping them, not complaining about the actual facts of the program. Something has to change and unless you are willing to stand up and fight for that, why even be here...
              www.redskinschop.com

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              • Champ Kind
                Valued Contributor
                • Apr 2010
                • 1631

                #52
                There's no hope for this program. Sorry. The school, board, and community are a train wreck!

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                • sonofsam
                  The Yoda of Ohio Valley Sports
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 7185

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Champ Kind View Post
                  There's no hope for this program. Sorry. The school, board, and community are a train wreck!
                  They still have tradition.
                  www.redskinschop.com

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                  • Champ Kind
                    Valued Contributor
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1631

                    #54
                    Lol

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                    • ichs92
                      Season Ticket Holder
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 186

                      #55
                      Originally posted by sonofsam View Post
                      They still have tradition.
                      The adults have tradition. The kids weren't born yet during the time when Buckeye Local dominated the valley. BL football is done.

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                      • sonofsam
                        The Yoda of Ohio Valley Sports
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 7185

                        #56
                        Originally posted by ichs92 View Post
                        The adults have tradition. The kids weren't born yet during the time when Buckeye Local dominated the valley. BL football is done.
                        Until we got back to the playoffs a few years ago, the kids that made it couldn't spell or say football or Creek the last time we made it in 1996.
                        www.redskinschop.com

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                        • BuckCreek
                          Season Ticket Holder
                          • May 2010
                          • 190

                          #57
                          These young men need to build tradition, one brick at a time. Little steps each season. The adults can draw on the old tradition to lead this group of young men.

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                          • Rookie
                            Valued Contributor
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 1388

                            #58
                            Originally posted by WooWooWoo! View Post
                            No offense to Beallsville, but I cannot believe the conversation has gotten to the point of scheduling them. Buckeye has played Walsh Jesuit, Upper St. Clair, Wheeling Park, Elyria Catholic, Niles McKinley, & Steubenville in the past, and we survived, protecting our tradition of PHC. I read Rick DeLuca's column online and saw that the loss finally put Buckeye Local at the point where their record was .500 or below. The players shouldn't be on the message board reading posts from anyone, they should be in the film and weight rooms. Coach Pest has been a part of a majority of BL's wins, as well as some state championship teams at Wheeling Central. Everybody loves a winner, but it all starts with the man in the mirror. Circle the wagons and go forward. The ghosts are still on the hill, always watching. Good Luck boys.
                            Good assistant does not always = good head coach. Ambition > long-time assistant.

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                            • Rookie
                              Valued Contributor
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 1388

                              #59
                              Originally posted by ProudPanther04 View Post
                              First of all, once again Dr. KNOW IT ALL, I have one screen name. I read your pathetic comments week after week. And second, and most importantly, you are not sticking up for the kids. When you tear down their Coaches, you tear down their team. Your posts do nothing but bring out more negativity from more people. Look at every negative thread started on this site and see who started them.....YOU.

                              I know for a fact that a large number of boys from the Panther team read your posts and they despise you. They bust their butts everyday and show up every Friday night with their chins up to play the game they love not to have people like you trash their team. It's not about you you selfish goof!

                              For your information the boys who are seniors now started their freshman year when coach Pest became head coach in 2012. In 2012 the freshmen played only 2 or 3 freshmen games due to the lack of teams in the valley having enough players to play. There were 14 freshmen in 2012. There are now 10 of those original 14. (I'll give you a minute to count ON YOUR FINGERS). So they are down 4. One moved on last year to Senior status and graduated to join the military, One quit due to injuries and two quit due to selfishness and parenting issues I will not get into. This FACT speaks volumes for how they feel about their HC. The Panthers are a team. Their TEAM is made up of the boys themselves and their coaches. You tear one down you tear the whole team down.

                              In another post you mention support in the community and how community members who used to be regulars at the games, whether they had ties to the player or not, no longer attend the games--I say toodles to them and hope they stay away. They are bandwagon fans. Watch them crawl back out of the woodwork when Buckeye cycles through another winning season. The only fans these boys need are the ones who support them all game, all night, all season, WIN OR LOSE. That is "what the boys deserve", not people like you who thrive to bring out all the other selfish doom and gloomers and make them feel bad about themselves. How are these boys ever going to get confidence when they read the comments on here trashing them even in middle school. They are kids. Kids who love the game of football for what it is not for their record and especially not for you and your fans.

                              So many of your comments on here are false statements. Your fancy stats, that anyone could look up if they had nothing better to do, mean nothing. Why don't you spend your time attending some board meetings and see where the real issues start. GET A LIFE!
                              Lets discuss pathetic, coaches, negativity, team, selfish, fans, bandwagon fans, win or lose, confidence, trashing, what the boys deserve, false statements and most of all the KIDS based on last night's performance.

                              Epic fail - 49-0 mercy rule running clock with 10 plus minutes in the 2nd quarter. Is that what the boys deserve? Do you think they bust their butts everyday only to be embarrassed and trashed by the opponents' team, opponents’ fans, opponents’ student body and their own . . . I think not. They deserve someone that can lead them, prepare them and provide them with the best opportunity to compete (win or lose) each and every time they step on the field. Is that happening?

                              Come Friday, it will be 1470 days (4 yrs, 9 days) since Buckeye has beat Bellaire. Bellaire has outscored Buckeye 149-22 in last three games.
                              2014 lost 61-0
                              2013 lost 43-6
                              2012 lost 45-16

                              Stats:

                              2015 - (0-4) - Outscored 173-33 – All scores against 2nd and 3rd teams

                              Lost to MF 60-7 – mercy rule - running clock with 1 min left in the 2nd quarter
                              Lost to UL 26-7
                              Lost to Edison 34-6 – mercy rule
                              Lost to IC 53-13 - mercy rule - running clock with 10 min left in the 2nd quarter

                              Team Info: Returning Offensive Players: 11 Returning Defensive Players: 15 Returning Lettermen: 22
                              Coaching Staff: Current HC, assistants: Anthony Barsch, Chris Heaton, AJ Barsch, Greg Ring Dillon Stickler, and Craig Kornetti.
                              Current HC Record 31-6; eight assistant coaches lost in 2 years.

                              Mercy ruled 9 out of 13 games since the rule began in 2014
                              Current Buckeye 8 losing streak 6 games - beat 1-9 EL end of 2014
                              Prior Buckeye 8 losing streak 16 games 2012-2014
                              3-25 against Buckeye 8 opponents since 2013
                              7-39 against Buckeye 8 opponents since 2010
                              Last win against team with winning record 2009 – diff coach

                              FOLKS THE REALITY IS THERE HAS BEEN NO IMPROVEMENT AND THE KIDS ARE NOT TO BLAME. The coaches will blame the BOE, parents, negative fans, and kids, the BOE will blame the Union, ORC, and Athletic Committee, the parents will blame the coaches, BOE, etc. When when will the hemorrhaging stop for the benefit of the ones that matter - the kids?
                              Last edited by Rookie; 09-19-2015, 12:21 PM.

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                              • ProudPanther04
                                JV Squad
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 23

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Rookie View Post

                                FOLKS THE REALITY IS THERE HAS BEEN NO IMPROVEMENT AND THE KIDS ARE NOT TO BLAME. The coaches will blame the BOE, parents, negative fans, and kids, the BOE will blame the Union, ORC, and Athletic Committee, the parents will blame the coaches, BOE, etc. When when will the hemorrhaging stop for the benefit of the ones that matter - the kids?
                                Rookie, I am just curious if you attend all the BL games? Please answer, i am seriously just curious.

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